Saturday, November 04, 2006

Conservative or Jive?

A few days before Halloween, a link was added to the list at right to a blog that promotes the Bush agenda and bashes "Sleepy Liberals."

The author of this blog has a chunk in his craw about the local "liberal" peace groups, whom he accuses of treason, and his new web site has a short list of "LIBERAL jihadi groups" including the Unitarian-Universalist fellowship, the local Peace Coalition, and the Longbranch coffee shop (with a link to the menu!, described as a "Left wing Liberal Jihadi hang out, owned by a Muslim cult group," referring to the organization behind the Branch).

Well the Dayemi Tariqat is not a cult, but a religious organization which, among other things, provides service to the poor. Sure, the service can be poor at the 'Branch, but it's still the top coffeehouse in town. You don't have to be a global gourmet to know that.

But the Global Conservative' takes the line that "Liberals" (anyone who opposes the hateful war in Iraq) "hate America" and are labeled "Liberal Jihadis" . . I wonder what he thinks of the so-called "architects" of the war, who are now bailing out on the President and his team. Read excerpts from the interviews in Vanity Fair. All you "right wingers" should read it -- and get with the program.

Or, have a gander at this editorial calling for Rumsfeld's removal hot off the presses of the Military Times Media Group.

What this town needs is a good Neo-Conservative coffee shop.


At 3:27 PM, nobody said...

d'ya know chuck?

At 4:15 PM, dave said...

If he's the same guy i'm thinking of, i've seen him at the 'Branch. We've exchanged polite emails. Do I know you?

At 3:19 PM, Shawn, the Beer Philosopher said...

Sadly, the pendulum seems to swing too far to the Left and the Right. This is certainly not the sole jurisdiction of the "Neo-Con" by any means. In my opinion, the zealots on both sides of the political fence only hurt their respective causes with their vitriol against the other.

In the case of the "Global Conservative" guy, you have a blogger who severely restricts his ability to be a respected voice in the marketplace of ideas because he chooses to use decidedly inflammatory language and name-calling. He severely restricts his sphere of influence. He's not the only one ...

I hear this kind of venom from the Left all the time, in blogs and other forums I peruse. I'm all for an equal voice and the free exchange of ideas ... but I'm repeatedly inclined to tell the talking heads on both sides that they're really just preaching to their respective choirs. Rants and verbal attacks seldom, if ever, result in qualitative change in the thinking of others. They rant to hear themselves rant, or perhaps to get a pat on the back from the choir members.

The thing that strikes me, more than anything else, when I read a blog like the afore-mentioned, is that those who have a predisposition to be ideologically opposed to the ideas being propagated - regardless of their method of delivery or tone - will almost universally dismiss them as erroneous, outside the bounds and ridiculous. While those with an equal predisposition to be sympathetic to the substance of the message will likely see them as containing some legitimate ideas, even though the "form" in which those ideas are communicated may be suspect.

My point - a blog like this one is a good litmus test for a person's core political worldview. If you're a Liberal, you'll see the Michael Moore's of this world, for example, as passionate and spot-on. If you're a Conservative, you may well see them as dangerous and deceptive.

Likewise, isn't it interesting that the "Global Conservative" blog can be seen as both of these simultaneously, depending on who you are and where you stand. Bottom line, we bring our own predispositions to the table with us at all times. They just don't always have good table manners.

I'll refrain from an exposition on the relative or absolute nature of truth at this point. Just keep in mind that not all "lefties" are, de facto, wrong. And as much as it may pain some to hear, not all "right-wingers" are always wrong either ...

Can both camps enter into constructive dialogue - free of the vitriol and name-calling? I don't know, but I have my doubts.
Dave, maybe you're new community blog idea can be a testing ground for this ... maybe not.

At 8:48 PM, bill said...

Has anybody read the Declaration of Independence or the United States Constitution lately? I think so-called conservatives would regard these documents as radical and liberals like me would call ourselves the real conservatives.

Let's see, our founding fathers formed this country "in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."

If this is "venom from the left" then we are in a sorry state indeed. How about a real leftist comment?

" secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it..."

I'm getting really sick of people who want to buy me a one-way ticket out of the country. I quote Carl Schurz: 'My country, right or wrong.' In one sense I say so too. My country; and my country is the great American Republic. My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right."

Is anyone planning to promote the Bytelife blog or even link to it? I don't mind writing for free, but not if no one is reading.


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